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		<description><![CDATA[The CleanIsrael podcast is intended to showcase Israeli cleantech innovation. Every now and then Yuval Susskind (CEO, Diffusaire) will sit down with a notable player within the Israeli cleantech space to discuss his view on cleantech innovation in the holy land. For thoughts and comments, contact Yuval at  greenp@cleanisrael.com.
Interview with Nissim Asaf
Having spent some time on the US west coast, Nissim returned to Israel to get invovled in the local entrepreneurial sector. A few years back, he founded Lesico Cleantech, an innovative company in the field of wastewater treatment and brine management. ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The CleanIsrael podcast is intended to showcase Israeli cleantech innovation. Every now and then Yuval Susskind (CEO, Diffusaire) will sit down with a notable player within the Israeli cleantech space to discuss his view on cleantech innovation in the holy land. For thoughts and comments, contact Yuval at  <a href="mailto:greenp@cleanisrael.com" target="_blank">greenp@cleanisrael.com</a>.</em></p>
<h3><em>Interview with Nissim Asaf</em></h3>
<p>Having spent some time on the US west coast, Nissim returned to Israel to get invovled in the local entrepreneurial sector. A few years back, he founded <a href="http://www.lesico.com/">Lesico Cleantech</a>, an innovative company in the field of wastewater treatment and brine management. So we sat down one morning over breakfast to get the insider&#8217;s story why does one need the skills of a kayaker in order to manage a water start-up&#8230; Listen in.</p>



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		<description><![CDATA[Yosef Abramowitz, CEO of Arava Power shares the story of how Arava Power surpassed hurdles and red tape to become a leader Israeli solar power developer, the general state of solar PV and solar thermal technologies, Israel's thriving cleantech sector and its growth as a future cleantech leader.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yosef I. Abramowitz specializes in public policy, government relations, press, technology and corporate strategy. </em></p>
<p><em>He has a successful track record in government relations, having led a major effort that won $7 billion in benefits, as well as international campaigns for various issues. With degrees in Public Policy from Boston University and Journalism from Columbia University, Yosef most recently served as CEO of a multimedia company for a decade.</em></p>
<p><em>Winner of numerous awards, Yosef has an extensive global network, having served on the Executive Board of the World Jewish Congress and in other positions.  He has been co-nominated three times for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in the former Soviet Union, which was underwritten by the European Union and U.S. AID.</em></p>
<p><em>Yosef is based in Boston, and has relocated to Kibbutz Ketura with his wife, Rabbi Susan Silverman, and their five children.  His interest in solar power began in high school, where he received a regional award for a solar energy project. </em></p>
<h3><strong>On Arava Power…</strong></h3>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Hi Yossi, it&#8217;s a   pleasure to meet you and thank you for hosting me at your office for this   interview. </em></strong><strong><em>Tell us   a little about Arava Power?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Arava   Power is the first green utility in the Middle East. We are technologically   agnostic and that is a very important piece of our strategy. We will always   use the best technology available that is appropriate for each specific location   and that works with the specific regulatory environment.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Arava   Power has run a significant round of the Israeli bureaucratic obstacle course   over the last couple of years – tell us a little about it:</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Two   and a half years ago we decided we are going to push the Arava Power project   ahead &#8211; everyone said it can&#8217;t be done &#8211; you can&#8217;t get a license for solar   you can&#8217;t get a building permit for a solar field you can&#8217;t do the zoning   etc. Despite everything we just kept pushing along and at each stage every   government office and every committee had to create the process to allow the   Ketura 80 dunam 4.9MW field to advance forward.  There   are 25 political and regulatory battles to be fought for anybody who wants to   build a commercial solar field in Israel. On January 4<sup>th</sup> 2010 we   won the 25<sup>th</sup> battle (the Public Utility Authority passed the feed-in   tariff of 1.49 for commercial solar fields up to 5MW), of-course this is not   the end of the story, there are still more battles to be fought. For example,   the National Building and Planning commission is in the process of coming up   with regulation for rezoning agricultural land  so that it can be used for solar fields,   there&#8217;s currently no normative process in Israel to do that in a way which   will be fast. In contrast to Europe where it takes 4 to 6 months for   rezoning, in Israel it takes 3 years if you&#8217;re lucky.  So we   effectively created the political necessity for all 12-14 government offices   to essentially do what they need to do to create the environment so that it   would be a reasonable thing to plan, build and interconnect commercial solar   fields in the state of Israel.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Once   this industry matures and more players join the market what elements will the   competition be based upon?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Well,   technology plays an invaluable and critical role but once you know what your   technology is it becomes in fact a real-estate deal. Whoever has the best   land, in the sunniest regions, closest to the right transmissions lines will   create the most demand for new technologies to be created and will make the   most money.<strong><em> </em></strong></td>
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<h3><strong>On solar technology PV and Solar-Thermal…</strong></h3>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Being   technologically agnostic – exactly how do you choose your technology?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Every   panel manufacturer makes all sorts of claims about how much energy their   panels produce. The sun conditions in the Arava are quite unique therefore we   didn&#8217;t rely upon anyone&#8217;s assumptions but rather wanted to test out these   things for ourselves. For over two years now we&#8217;ve been running a small alpha   test site together with the Arava Institute for Environmental Studies, the   Brian Medved Alpha Solar Center. We have off-course limited our testing only   to technologies that are bankable.<strong><em> </em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Can   you explain the term &#8220;bankable technologies&#8221; in this context?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">To do   commercial solar fields is a very expensive infrastructure cleantech   endeavor, you need to put down 20% and borrow 80%. To do this you need a bank   that believes that for 20 years the technology is going to work well in a   predictable way so that you can repay the loan and also the investors can   make money. Because of the necessity for bankability you can&#8217;t really get too   creative on which technologies you&#8217;re going to use at this stage. Banks in   general are conservative and Israeli banks are notoriously so therefore we   need to go on bankable and certified technologies for now.<strong><em> </em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>As   a solar utility you have obviously analyzed the various available solar   technologies from the efficiency, financial and regulatory perspective, tell   us more about the considerations regarding use of solar thermal technologies   in contrast to PV solar: (14.00)</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">As I   said earlier solar-thermal needs larger scale in order to get the   efficiencies you get from PV. With that, the issues that solar-thermal   utilities are running into are not related to space but rather to the problem   of the amount of water needed for the cooling systems. For this reason, in   Israel there needs to be regulation that discourages water cooled systems and   encourages air cooled. The problem is that air-cooled systems are less   efficient so you need a higher feed-in tariff, for now, in order to get a   good parity.  Right   now there is a public hearing proposal in Israel for solar thermal plants up   to 60MW and above 60MW &#8211; the proposed tariff is 90 Agurot ($0.24) for over   60MW which is not worthwhile and 1.05NIS ($0.28) for under 60MW which is way   too low. It&#8217;s too low in general if water cooled systems are available, water   cooled systems being cheaper than air cooled. We all have till the end of   January to give our feedback on this proposal and then eventually they&#8217;ll   announce feed-in tariffs for large fields.  Now   what they want to do is to take the large tariff for solar thermal and apply   it to PV which is also ludicrous. No country in the world has the same   large-field tariff for both PV ad solar thermal. This is basically an   indication to the fact that they don&#8217;t have a real commitment to large PV   fields and frankly they don’t commit to large solar thermal other than the   ones which use a ridiculous amount of water and that is just bad public   policy and part of the learning process.  So,   as the people who push the envelope, we are going to everything we can to   make sure that there is a higher tariff for large solar thermal fields that   will encourage air cooling and profitability. As large and as strong as Solel   is today that market could grow by leaps and bounds if we also had a domestic   market. Why shouldn&#8217;t there be a GW of solar thermal plants if we can figure   out the zoning and the environmental stuff. So the tariff will encourage that   and then once there is a local demand you&#8217;ll find all sorts of innovations   and efficiencies that will be created through Solel and other companies.<strong><em> </em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Siemens   owns 40% of Arava Power and 100% of Solel, the Israeli solar thermal company,   are we going to see Solel solar thermal fields implemented in Israel?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">As I   said Arava is technologically agnostic and that means we&#8217;ll choose the right   technology for the right location at the right time in the market.  There   is no final permit for any solar-thermal field in Israel. In solar-thermal   you need larger scale in order to get the efficiencies, in other words you   need 15MW to get to the price point that shows the solar thermal is   worthwhile. In order to do that you need 1000 to 2000 dunam – this means   getting all the permissions, environmental impacts permits, zoning etc. and   there&#8217;s not yet a tariff that works with solar thermal in Israel (the 1.49NIS   is only for PV up to 5MW, you can&#8217;t do 5MW solar thermal today that is bankable).   That being said, there is currently a public hearing process in this regard.  There&#8217;s   a great experiment happening today at kibbutz Samar with AORA, a solar-thermal   tower at 100KW each tower and we&#8217;re very interested to see how that develops   because that&#8217;s the first modular solar thermal installation. Whether it&#8217;s   ripe for us and the rest of the market has yet to be seen but the fact that   it&#8217;s modular may solve some of the land space issues.  It&#8217;s   safe to say that Siemens is very strategic and they know that it&#8217;s in their   interest to align all of their solar assets worldwide and especially in the   Middle East and we look forward to being part of that alignment.</td>
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<h3><strong>On the position of Israel&#8217;s Cleantech Industry…</strong></h3>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>What   needs to change in order for Israel to become a leader in the global   cleantech market?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Israel   has to go through two main phases in order to become a leader in the global   cleantech industry. The first phase is to develop &#8220;domestic use and   demand&#8221; and the second is the &#8220;innovation&#8221; phase, the killer   app of renewables if you like.  Everyone   always wants to jump to the second phase and for that reason there are so   many startups looking at a wide variety of very interesting ideas in the   Israeli market. What is holding the industry back nevertheless (other than   solar thermals which was developed 20-30 yrs ago), is that we have not yet   gone through the first phase.  Once   Israel has domestic use and demand, innovation will accelerate because   innovators will have an outlet to pilot, experiment and study under some of   the harshest environments on the planet in the south of Israel for example.<strong><em> </em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Are   there markets in which we see this logic being applied?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Germany   is the world leader in producing renewable energy. Almost 50% of solar power   in the world is being produced in Germany which is astounding given that they   only have 900KW hrs per sq/m of sunlight in contrast to the Arava where we   have 2247KW hrs per sq/m.  It&#8217;s   important to understand that the public policy goal to lower the barriers to   entry and invest so much money in a very rich feed-in tariff (what project   developers get paid for each KWhr) was not really based so much on an   environmental agenda as it was on creating 40,000 new jobs in Germany over   the last decade in the space of renewables and particularly in solar.  In   effect, they created tremendous local demand, consequently thousands of   people went into the industry and out of those thousands a portion went into   innovation and then manufacturing. So now they are number one in the   industry, needless to say, a decade is a pretty short time for such an   accomplishment.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>So   how exactly would this work in Israel?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">So,   as I said, phase one is to create a domestic market &#8211; first build hundreds of   MW and then GW&#8217;s. When you do that the innovation and manufacturing sector   wakes up. Once innovation and manufacturing awakens, we would like to see the   Israeli government do two things:  Firstly,   create tax incentives for the developers to buy Israeli technology. This will   encourage the local industry by pumping capital into it. If, for example, a   developing company needs a little more capital it can come obtain it through an   order for 50M worth of hardware – this is a lot better than a research grant   from the government. These incentives will effectively enable Israeli   companies to compete with the efficiency and cheapness of the Chinese who are   very impressively going to dominate the market.  Secondly   (and this will bring the real revolution), give a loan guarantee to a bank, which   will underwrite the financing of Israeli experimental technologies which are   advanced but not yet bankable. This will enable developers to effectively   showcase the more recent developments in Israeli solar energy without the banks   having to take the full risk on the 80% financing.  So   part one of the revolution is create demand, have a lot of money coming   through the market, build expertise. Part two is the regulatory dimension &#8211;   tax breaks and other benefits for using Israeli technology and in addition,   government guarantees to the banks to share the risk of not-yet-bankable   Israeli technologies.  I   believe that there is going to be a game change in the solar market in the   next 5 years and once local demand will be created here, it will most likely   come from Israel.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>What   does Israel have that makes you so confident that the game-change will come   from here and what will change that will make it happen in the next 5 years?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Israel   has a unique entrepreneurial culture and it has the confidence of the capital   markets and VC&#8217;s. Furthermore, almost all universities now have environmental   and renewable energy center in the framework of which people will be doing   their masters and PHd&#8217;s on these issues and out of which many startups will   be developing. But as I said, in order for all this to happen we really need   a local test market in which to develop it.</td>
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<h3><strong>On Israel&#8217;s role in the global energy shift…</strong></h3>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>What   role do you think Israel can play in the global paradigm shift in the energy   sector?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">I   think that there are two things: The first is connected to the question in a   post Copenhagen world of how you transform a modern economy from being carbon   based to being renewable based and particularly solar based.  This   has not yet been done &#8211; you can&#8217;t name one economy that has gone from the one   old model and completely transferred to clean energy (I&#8217;m not talking about   nuclear power). For this reason, there is a lot of trepidation surrounding   the issue and this is one of the reasons behind why things fell apart in   Copenhagen.  We   are a small and innovative country and therefore we are able to do   revolutionary things quickly – if and when we want to. We are currently at   eleven GW; we&#8217;ll go up to twenty GW by 2020 which for us is actually still   incredibly manageable.  Israel   can go from last place to first place in the industrial world of renewables in   a potentially short period of time. During such a process will learn about so   many issues that we don&#8217;t even know that we will have to counter along the way.   This will essentially make us the proof positive that it is possible and we   will know how it may be done. We will effectively be the global pilot for   transforming into a carbon neutral economy.  The   second thing is a security perspective. We have the highest political   incentive to end the world&#8217;s dependency on carbon because we are in a hostile   neighborhood that is fueled by a carbon based global economy. We must figure   out how to break that stranglehold.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>What   do you think would be one of the main technological challenges in reaching a   clean economy?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">The   issue will be energy storage – that&#8217;s going to be a key and I think that   energy storage technology breakthroughs are likely to come from Israel if   there is a local demand because then the necessity will be there.  Once you get to 10-20% of the grid with   renewables that are daytime dependant you must solve the storage question on   a systemic national grid basis. If we create the market for that, the innovators   in the market will come through.</td>
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<td colspan="2" width="568" valign="top"><strong>On the interest of foreign investors…</strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>How   did the international investor market respond to a project that has such a   heavy bureaucratic component to it?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">The   international investor community never blinked in the three and a half years   of our climb. We were first to market in a market that didn&#8217;t exist, which   meant that almost every major international company that is interested in   this space came to visit us, a good percentage of them courted us – we were   in a privileged position.  Once   we scored the license that&#8217;s when almost a bidding war began. Even during the   financial crisis we had no issues raising capital. I think this is an   incredible statement about the belief of the international investor community   in the potential of the Israeli market and I think it speaks very well of our   management team.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>And   then Siemens came along, what did they offer that made you go specifically   with them?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="504" valign="top">We   were very fortunate that Siemens came along when it did. There was an   important differentiator between them and the other international investors.   Not only did they respect the value that we had created as a company up until   now by creating the market and having the first mover advantage but they were   also willing to partner in the full sense of the word with the management   team. They didn&#8217;t come in saying we&#8217;re buying you &#8211; we&#8217;re going to control   you, hire and fire you and so on but rather they came in with the attitude of   &#8220;you guys know what you are doing&#8221;. All the other companies either   wanted to acquire or wanted to provide capital but at rates that just didn&#8217;t   appreciate the value that we are creating, the value of creating a market.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>How   did the regulatory breakthroughs affect international investors&#8217; interest?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">Now   that there&#8217;s a feed-in tariff everybody wants to finance projects because   once you have a license and a building permit there&#8217;s no risk &#8211; you&#8217;re   getting at least a 15% if not higher return as an investor. Israel will be at   least a 4GW market that&#8217;s $20B. I say to you today that there&#8217;s enough   interest in the international community to do that if the regulatory   environment was up to speed. If we had the zoning right for that much land   and if the feed-in tariff on large fields was closer 1.35NIS then 20B will   come through this economy between now and 2020, no doubt about it.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Finally,   when will be seeing the first commercial solar field in Israel?</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">The   work will begin shortly; we hope to see the first commercial field working in   2010.</td>
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<td width="64" valign="top"><strong>Avner</strong></td>
<td width="504" valign="top"><strong><em>Thanks   you so much for you time…</em></strong></td>
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<td width="64" valign="top">Yossi</td>
<td width="504" valign="top">It   was a pleasure talking to you.</td>
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		<description><![CDATA[Albert Einstein once said "only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.”  He must have been talking about how we use energy.  How can it be that we build dangerous coal mines, burn that coal in power plants while emitting NOx, SOx, mercury and other toxins into our air and water, and build vast networks of overhead transmission cables across hundreds of kilometers and into people’s homes, just so we can have the pleasure of turning on a light bulb in our living room?


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Glen Schwaber is a Partner at <a href="http://www.israelcleantech.com">Israel Cleantech Ventures</a> and his investment interests are in crossover IT, solar, and power electronics and storage. He currently represents the firm on the boards of CellEra, Scodix and Brightview. Glen is a veteran venture capitalist, bringing with him 15 years of experience in Israeli technology finance.</em></p>
<h3><em><strong>Cleantech &amp; Israel – The Quest for Smarts </strong></em></h3>
<p>Albert Einstein once said &#8220;only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I&#8217;m not sure about the former.”  He must have been talking about how we use energy.  How can it be that we build dangerous coal mines, burn that coal in power plants while emitting NOx, SOx, mercury and other toxins into our air and water, and build vast networks of overhead transmission cables across hundreds of kilometers and into people’s homes, just so we can have the pleasure of turning on a light bulb in our living room?  Not to mention that if too many people turn on their lights at the same time, we all suffer a blackout.  As Jefferson Tester, Elisabeth Drake, and their MIT co-authors illustrate in their landmark textbook, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sustainable Energy</span>, this most common of energy lifecycles – transformation of the chemical energy of a mineral fuel to visible light using an incandescent bulb – has an overall energy efficiency of 1.6%, when accounting for energy losses at the power plant, during transmission, and finally at the light source itself.  In other words, we lose over 98% of the energy potential in a unit of coal during this process, to say nothing of the energy required to mine the coal in the first place and the externalities/pollutants generated throughout this (non) value chain.  Somewhere between our energy generation, transmission, and consumption methods today on the one hand, and relying on candlelight on the other, there has to be a smarter way.  And it is this – the quest to find a smarter way – that cleantech is all about.</p>
<h3>Opportunities for Innovation</h3>
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<p>Scratching the surface of the above example reveals a glimpse into the myriad of markets and technologies that are emerging from the drive to build a more sustainable industrialized energy economy.</p>
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<li><strong>The coal power plant</strong> &#8212; coal is the cheapest, most abundant, but also the most carbon intensive and pollution-emitting source of energy in our industrialized world.  Hence the enormous sums of political and financial capital that have gone to (a) reducing emissions from coal fired power plants (b) efforts at carbon capture and sequestration (c) trials using algae to absorb CO2 alongside power plants during cultivation as a biofuel feedstock, and (d) technologies to convert coal into a cleaner, more efficient source of energy such as natural gas, through catalytic processes.</li>
<li><strong>Alternative energy generation</strong> &#8212; coal, gas, and oil account for about 85% of the world’s energy supply.  Nuclear is about 6%.  Wind and solar combined still account for only 1%.  The long term market outlook for these alternatives, to say nothing of biofuels, is compelling and obvious.  Migrating our societies off of fossil fuels and into renewables is one of the greatest challenges and economic opportunities of the 21<sup>st</sup> century.</li>
<li><strong> Smart Grid</strong> &#8212; According to the US Department of Energy (DOE), <em>America</em><em>’s electric system, “the supreme engineering achievement of the 20th century,” is aging, inefficient, and congested, and incapable of meeting the future energy needs of the Information Economy without operational changes and substantial capital investment over the next several decades.</em><em> </em>The DOE, in its position paper entitled “Grid 2030”, envisions a competitive marketplace for electricity, and one which connects everyone to abundant, affordable, clean, efficient, and reliable electric power anytime, anywhere.  The paper points to several promising technologies on the horizon including advanced conductors made from new composite materials, electric storage systems such as flow batteries or flywheels, distributed intelligence and smart controls, power electronics devices for AC-DC conversion, and distributed energy resources including on-site generation and demand management. This past October, the DOE announced $3.4B in smart grid investment grants, with allocations for smart meters and consumer systems, transmission and distribution grid modernization and projects that include and integrate various smart grid components. In November, the DOE announced $620M in grants for regional, fully integrated smart grid demonstration projects in 21 states and energy storage projects, including advanced battery systems, flywheels, and compressed air energy storage.  President Obama has a stated goal of doubling the amount of renewable energy the country uses in the next three years and is backing that up with significant cash infusions.  Already, we see the rapid deployment of smart appliances, sensors, timers, thermostats, and advanced meters. These in turn enable diagnostics and real time monitoring, demand response, and more sophisticated provisioning and billing from utilities and newly emerging intermediaries.</li>
<li><strong>Energy efficiency</strong> &#8212; According to the International Energy Agency, (IEA), energy consumption is expected to grow by 25 quadrillion Btu by 2030.  This growth will cost $10 trillion for electricity generation, transmission and distribution assets alone.   Providing enough energy for economic growth in the future will require co-generation &#8212; using waste heat from electricity production for environmental heating/cooling and water heating.   It will also require entirely new approaches to energy efficiency and conservation within buildings. The IEA reports that existing commercial and nonresidential buildings account for nearly 40% of U.S. energy usage and contribute an almost equal percentage of the CO2.  When viewed specifically for electricity, buildings account for 72% of U.S. consumption.  Piper Jaffray analysts currently expect the &#8216;green&#8217; construction market to reach $95B &#8211; $140B, and perhaps more over the next five years, through the introduction of green building components like energy efficient windows, walls, insulation, construction materials, building integrated PV technologies and other energy saving devices.  Some governments have put in place tax incentives and rebates for conducting energy audits to catalyze the shift to energy efficiency within the business and home.  The incandescent bulb in our example will become extinct through a combination of legislation and technology, as fluorescents and increasingly reliable and cost-effective solid state lighting (LED) alternatives capture market share. Opportunities abound within the enterprise setting as well, with the drive towards efficiency leading to new conceptions of how to build enterprise computing, data storage networks, and server farms.</li>
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<h3>The Israeli Entrepreneur’s Dilemma</h3>
<p>Clearly, the energy markets today are varied, vast, and offer tremendous opportunity for aspiring technology entrepreneurs.  And the above broad market categories still exclude entire swaths of the cleantech opportunity such as transportation, water desalination, water treatment and agritech, all of which tie into our energy economy as well.   Little wonder that cleantech as an investment theme in Israel has gone from fringe to obvious in the span of a few years.  Three dedicated cleantech VC funds have been raised successfully, nearly all generalist VCs have added cleantech to their portfolio mix, and the pace of new cleantech dealflow has grown to about 150 startups annually, up from just a trickle in 2005.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, VC markets are showing signs of stress.  According to the IVC Research Center, Israeli high-tech companies raised $1.1B in 2009 compared with $2.1B the preceding year, a fall of 46%, and projections for 2010 are even worse.  And based on NVCA data, 2009 was the worst year for VC fundraising in the US since 1993.  True, cleantech as a percentage of total VC investments has increased substantially not only in Israel, but around the world.  But with just $150M of dedicated early stage capital for cleantech under management by the most active local VCs, absolute dollar amounts allocated for cleantech in Israel are still quite limited.</p>
<p>So, here’s the problem.  We know that our industrialized energy-intensive economies today are unsustainable.  We know that the next decades will be largely devoted to bringing technology to bear on tackling these problems.  We believe that this offers potential for massive wealth creation on the part of the best and brightest entrepreneurs and innovation-driven businesses.  Yet, right now the VC industry in Israel is going through a tough period and accessing early stage capital for cleantech is not easy.</p>
<p>The key then, for the cleantech entrepreneur in Israel is to focus on bringing unique capabilities to bear on a real, immediate, pressing market need in an industry segment that offers a clear, capital efficient, and quick path to commercialization. The VC industry globally and locally will likely face continued consolidation. Financing startups will be more difficult than in the past. Yet, the best entrepreneurs with the best ideas will continue to get funded, which are in fact the only companies that should be getting funded in the first place.</p>
<p>Israel’s tech sector has flourished through the creation of core technology competencies that are world leading.  These include, but are not limited to digital printing, semiconductors, power electronics, optics, and software.  Over the last two decades multiple billions of VC dollars have poured into Israeli companies in these sectors, market leaders have emerged, and many of the world’s largest multinationals have bought companies and set up shop in Israel as a result.   Israel’s ability to compete globally in cleantech markets will depend largely on our success in leveraging all this know-how.  And we are already seeing it happen.  Entrepreneurs who built their careers in the digital print industry are now taking that expertise to PV cell manufacturing.  Israeli excellence in advanced optics and systems has spawned a number of very interesting utility scale solar companies.  And local technology prowess in power electronics and chip design has found a home in companies doing energy efficient lighting and smarter PV energy harvesting.  It is in these areas, where there is a critical mass of development and engineering talent available here in Israel, that local entrepreneurs should channel their ideas and efforts.  No need to try to solve all the problems in the “light bulb” energy lifecycle.  Many solutions within the energy marketplace do not make sense to build from Israel.  Instead, local entrepreneurs should keep a laser focus on their own core competencies and concentrate solely on those segments where they can bring unique capabilities to bear.  Companies in Israel that marry up world-class business and technology acumen, a deep understanding of the path to market, and capital efficient business models, will have little trouble raising VC financing.</p>
<h3>Where We’re Headed</h3>
<p>Human industrialized society may have stumbled into a pretty dumb way of turning on our lights, but we are no doubt going to innovate towards a more sustainable paradigm of energy creation and utilization.  As JFK said in 1963, “our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man.  And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings.”  Israel with its well documented history of innovation is fast becoming one of the leading global centers for cleantech activity.  And we are only just beginning.</p>


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